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69 responses to “Open Thread Thursday!

  1. It is now no longer necessary to see the alleged BC anymore because it is ANOTHER PHONEY. But at the same time the WH said emphatically that this was in fact the long form BC. Fine and thank you WH,because you just spilled the beans and confirmed in front of 300,000,000 people that Obaba’s father was born in KENYA. We all know now that if this is the case then obama is NOT AN NBC. SQUARELY ON THE OBAMA STATEMENT. HE HAS CUT HIS OWN THROAT. EVERYBODY READ LINE 11 on the phoney BC, THEN SEE WHAT YOU THINK.

  2. ….READ line 11 “father’s place of birth”…..KENYA. Obama NOT NBC.!

  3. Hannity last night refused to read line 11. of the PHONEY BC.He also lied about much of the BC on the TV show last night. I now know that Hannity LIES,just as badly as Oreilly,and Beck. While Beck has brought out a great deal regarding the Progressives, I no longer trust anything he or any of the others have to say. To me they are all LIARS..

  4. Mr. Bill(ms.helga)

    The whole of the MSM goes down with the USURPER. That is why the are covering for him. It is as plain as the face on my nose!!!
    Our whole political system is corrupt to the core.
    There. I said and feel better. I am a SWAN -Sleep Well At Night.

  5. I don’t even listen to any of them. They are just as bad as MSNBC reporters. I don’t know how someone can say that they agree with the constitution and then not follow the whole thing. I guess it is just like the bible, most people pick and choose which things they want to apply and then throw out the verses that they don’t like.

  6. Listened to Trump’s press interview from yesterday after he got off his helo and I absolutely loved the way he tied those dingbat reporters in knots. Like him or not, he is not afraid to confront the media and toss there cr** back in their faces. They were so sure they would trip him up. Instead they all left dizzy and with their twisted tongues hanging out of their mouths. Loved it when Trump said he got “all his info on Obama directly from them”. LMAO.

  7. Wow. I need to go buy more duct tape. Walt Fitzpatrick has an explosive article on the timing of the release of the forgery.

    Treason Complaint against Obama is in the Hands of Two Federal Grand Juries

    IS OBAMA RUNNING FROM THE POWER OF THE GRAND JURY?
    by Walter Francis Fitzpatrick, III

    Second Treason Complaint filed against Barack Hussein Obama by Walter Francis Fitzpatrick, III on 17 March 2011 with the U.S. Attorney in Knoxville, TN

    http://www.thepostemail.com/2011/04/27/treason-complaint-against-obama-is-in-the-hands-of-two-federal-grand-juries/

  8. Mr. Bill(ms.helga) | April 28, 2011 at 10:13 am |
    The whole of the MSM goes down with the USURPER. That is why the are covering for him. It is as plain as the face on my nose!!!
    ****************************
    Mr. Bill, I agree about the MSM and also would include certain segments of the so-called conservative media.

    Media personnel have a lot of power, and often it goes to their heads. O’Reilly is badly infected with the disease, and there are some, like Hannity, Malkin, Levin, and others that, in their own way, also have contracted this “power-itis”.

    They do not like their publicity worlds threatened too much. After all, their careers, including livelihood, are at stake, or so they feel.

  9. cjzak | April 28, 2011 at 10:31 am |

    Yeah, cjzak, since when have we seen ANYONE handle the media like that? It was refreshing, and I hope he keeps it up.

  10. What is it about twin girls born day after Obama?
    Jerome Corsi

    Read more: What is it about twin girls born day after Obama? http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=292457#ixzz1KpZ4PFav

  11. I hope Trump stays on the eligibility bandwagon and keeps smacking down reporters. As long as he does, I’m with him. He backs off, he’ll lose a lot of support. I think he knows that.

  12. We need to have a national media blackout day. Week. Month.

    What is more horrifying? The fact that the WH has released such an obvious forgery, or that the media is circling the citizens and tightening the noose?

    I don’t know how to get this started and spread the word, but if advertisers got wind of it, do you think they’d be buying time on the TV, radio, papers, etc?

  13. Mr. Bill(ms.helga)

    EVERYBODY – Listen to Rush today. I think he is the lynch-pin.

  14. Glenn Beck is an idiot.

  15. Kaiie………………………
    The WH releas3d the new PHONEY. Yet at the same time Obama insisted that it is hisa long form. Do you know what else he done,at that very MOMENT……….HE CONFIRMED THAT HE IS NOT ELIGIBLE TO HOLD THE OFFICE OF POTUS. Look where it says “birthplace of father”he must be totally insane to believe that we the people are so stupid that we would miss that. He is NOT a PRODUCT of TWO US CITIZEN PARENTS…..thanks Soetoro for CONFIRMING THIS FACT.

  16. Mr. Bill(ms.helga)

    For those who believe our government is throwing up all sorts of distractions to keep our eyes off the main attraction – try this out –

    “H.A. A.R.P. + tornadoes”

    http://www.google.com/#hl=en&sugexp=gsqvh&pq=h.a.r.p.p&xhr=t&q=H.A.+A.R.P.+%2B+tornadoes&cp=23&pf=p&sclient=psy&source=hp&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=H.A.+A.R.P.+%2B+tornadoes&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=822bf32b5c0e0691

  17. We need to point this out to Manning,and to GLOBE. Lets see what they can do with it. Also it needs to be explained to Trump.

  18. Brought this over from another blog and wanted to share…..
    How are they going to explain this???
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Troy says:
    April 28, 2011 at 11:16 am

    Obama Supporter Unknowingly Confirms BC Forgery
    OBAMA’S HIGH SCHOOL TEACHER CLAIMS DIFFERENT DOCTOR
    by Miki Booth
    http://www.thepostemail.com/2011/04/27/obama-supporter-unknowingly-confirms-bc-forgery/

  19. O.T., but interesting:
    Huckabee Out?
    South Carolina staffers reportedly told to seek their fortunes elsewhere.

    by John Hayward
    04/27/2011

    http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=43196
    Quote:
    Huckabee is a Fox News contributor with his own weekend show, which he would have to suspend if he entered the presidential race.  He’s been polling very well in South Carolina.  If he’s releasing key staffers in that state, he’s probably not far from formally declaring a non-candidacy.

    Update: Further grist for the mill comes in the form of a splendid $3 million home Huckabee has under construction in Fort Walton Beach, Florida.  Huckabee has claimed Walton County, Florida, as his primary residence for some time now.

    He told the Walton Sun of his love for the area last December, saying “South Walton is all Southeastern Conference. I can order grits and people know what I’m talking about. Not to mention, the most beautiful beaches in all of America.  It’s an incredible, magnificent area with the best restaurants that are on par with those in Manhattan, but you don’t have to hijack a Brinks truck to pay for the meal.” 

  20. P.S. Maybe that secret meeting that Trump and Huckabee had a few weeks ago was someway involved with the above, possible decision.

  21. Any potential candidate that accepts Obama’s eligibility can go ahead and drop out and I won’t miss them a bit.

    The issue of the “layers” on the fake bc has the rino’s out spinning how the layers are “no problem” and we need to just accept that it’s genuine. That came from the National Review.

    I feel like Charlton Heston…….”Get away from me you d*mn dirty rinos”!

  22. Paxson | April 28, 2011 at 12:13 pm |
    Glenn Beck is an idiot.
    ********************
    Paxson, I have to agree with your assessment. He left me a long time ago when he began railing on us who just want to know the truth. Is that an unreasonable request, especially when he has always been saying, “Question with boldness”? That is hypocrisy of the first order, imo.

  23. yo – 12/57 PM
    The issue of the “layers” on the fake bc has the rino’s out spinning how the layers are “no problem” and we need to just accept that it’s genuine. That came from the National Review.
    ***************************
    Wowee! Even the conservative think tanks are in a tizzy with the spin!

  24. yo, These rinos are SO afraid their little pet plans are going to be disrupted. I say, “Let’s give them something to chew on.”

  25. Limbaugh: Trump Can Add ‘I Won!’ to ‘You’re Fired’

    http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/rushlimbaugh-donaldtrump-obamabirthcertificate/2011/04/27/id/394309?s=al&promo_code=C2BA-1

    Limbaugh, writes the Mediaite website, “was certainly tickled pink by today’s developments, reveling in the fact that a reality TV star had forced Obama’s hand.”

  26. SueK – when you read this, if you have not checked your email, please do – I sent you a rather long question that I need help with. 😦

  27. The comfort of being among friends as good as it gets. Friends of Citizen Wells is now my adopted place . No yelling ,screaming,or insulting just pure pleasure.

  28. Mr. Bill(ms.helga)

    THIS WILL GET YOUR DANDER UP –

    Lawrence O’Donnell attacks Orly Taitz.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/28/lawrence-odonnell-orly-taitz-birther_n_854769.html?icid=maing-grid7|main5|dl4|sec1_lnk2|59195

    It starts at about 2.5 minutes

    MSNBC IS THE RECTAL THERMOMETER FOR POTOMAC FEVER

  29. Mr. Bill(ms.helga)

    oldsalt79 | April 28, 2011 at 3:30 pm |

    If you had a CB(Citizen Band car radio) a few years back, then you will know what I mean when I say “That’s a big Affirmative”
    FS must be going nuts.

  30. Mr. Bill(ms.helga)

    Hey – I just thought of something – CB stood for Citizen Band. Why don’t we call ourselves the “Citizen Band”?

  31. Mr. Bill(ms.helga)

    PS – I also remember this for OK –

    “10-4” – Affirmative. Can also be used to denote agreement (“That’s a big 10-4.”)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CB_slang

  32. Mr. Bill(ms.helga)
  33. oldsalt79 | April 28, 2011 at 3:30 pm |

    The comfort of being among friends as good as it gets. Friends of Citizen Wells is now my adopted place . No yelling ,screaming,or insulting just pure pleasure.
    _______________________________
    oldsalt,
    For what it’s worth, I’m glad you made the transition. I know you’ve been there a long time and (just guessing here… don’t let me put words in your mouth) the feeling of betrayal by CW for not taking control of his own blog and letting the chaos continue on and on must be very upsetting. I’ve always enjoyed your perspective on things ever since I started reading CW midway last year. I believe everyone’s perspective is valuable and deserves not to be attacked. We all come from different backgrounds in life, as well as different levels in our knowledge of the eligibility issue. I think I have learned quite a bit. But I know I still have a lot to learn. I too(!) appreciate this place because I can post a question or offer an opinion (no matter how dumb) and don’t have to worry about being called an obot or worse. The way that CW allowed a certain poster to abuse others was truly shameful.

  34. Check this out folks.

    http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread695331/pg1

    I checked it myself with Photoshop and was able to get some of the hidden text to pop. I believe that where the poster of the above thread sees “CIA – 61” — I see CIA HFI (Hawaii Field Office?). I can see some other text but it’s very hard to make it out, though I can see a time stamp of 7:2something, and at the top what may be “state of hawaii” but not sure. Would love to hear others weigh in on this.

  35. Cmdr Walter Fitzpatrick has filed new treason charges with two (2) sitting Federal Grand Juries in Knoxville, TN.
    Carl Swensson joins Red Beckman & Terry Dodd tonight to give you the inside track on these Grand Juries!

    We will also diagnose Obama’s latest forgery.

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  36. Indymac – I took a hop over there. This stuff is so far over my head – I mean, to be able to work with Photoshop, etc. – that I am of no help; however, more power to you guys.

    There is something which is puzzling, however. Some news agencies are showing the LFBC which is a different version of the one posted on the govt. site, and the argument is being made that the different version does not hold up to the” layers” theory.

    With my Mac laptop I can’t even seem to “copy” the govt. site version in order to then “paste” it onto a text/edit sheet. The way I copy something is to highlight it first, then Control> C. The highlighting just will not “take” for some reason. Any thoughts? Is it because I am not using a more elaborate desktop?

  37. Cabby, there are two versions of this thing, one with a security overlay (green) and one without (white). After looking at the white version that I enhanced I believe that the type that appears to be CIA HFI is actually the word Oahu and the words above it say Island Of and the time stamp I assume is also the time of birth, since that time is 7:24. So apparently there is nothing spooky about that text, LOL!

    As for figuring whether the layers are evidence of a sloppy forgery or were created naturally is beyond my knowledge base, better get the guys who are Illustrator pros and know about all that OCR stuff.

    What strikes me as the most odd thing about this doc is in regards to a lack of chormatic abberations around the lettering when enlarged. It’s not there at all, leading me to believe that this doc was created on a computer. I really don’t see how a scanned or photographed copy could be free of all chromatic abberations. Professional forensic analysis is required.

  38. Okay, it appears to me that the old short form COLB is visible in the doc that was released yesterday. It’s only visible with enhancement. Don’t know why it’s there but it is there.

  39. So anyway, anyone have any idea why the short form COLB would be visible (when enhanced) in the just released ‘long form’?

  40. Cabby and indymac,
    I found a video that might explain some of this – it shows both documents Cabby mentioned and talks about chromatic aberrations. Please let me know if this sheds any light:

  41. Just listening to O’Really. I think he is in that tank for Obama.

  42. indymac | April 28, 2011 at 9:49 pm |
    As for figuring whether the layers are evidence of a sloppy forgery or were created naturally is beyond my knowledge base, better get the guys who are Illustrator pros and know about all that OCR stuff.
    **************************
    indy, if you are still around, take a skip over to National Review:

    http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/265767/pdf-layers-obamas-birth-certificate-nathan-goulding

    Scroll down to a comment by:
    ElCapitanAmerica
    04/28/11 17:15

    In his comment he rather debunks another poster who feels that he “has something” with respect to the layering. See what you think, IF you feel like it. I am not a techie, and don’t really understand his points. BTW, I did add my five cents worth under my given name a few above.

  43. What tipped you off T4P? 🙂

  44. In my opinion, WND is doing a slow “drip” on the direction of Corsi’s research. Maybe I’m being overly optimistic, but for some reason I have a hunch that Corsi is going to pull it all together. This birth certificate was manufactured from various sources, but for some reason I think this is going to end up as a side show.

  45. T4P,
    Thanks for the video. I had seen it yesterday but appreciated viewing it again after reading more from other sources. It appears that the AP version is not as suspect, while the government version is very much so, since it is computer – generated.

    If that is correct, then doesn’t it seem strange that the W.H. would put up such a lousy, bungled version? Are they that inept and/or arrogant, or are they being cagey? Is someone trying to bring O down, OR is this meant to confuse US?

    BTW, has anyone read the latest Ulsterman Insider report re. the battle going on between Daley and Valerie Jarrett, who thinks she owns the place?
    Zach had it posted over at the other place. Food for thought, regardless of the origin of “insider”.

  46. Paxson | April 28, 2011 at 11:14 pm |

    What tipped you off T4P? 🙂
    ——————————————-
    I am not sure as to the tipping point. I have been suspect for a while. It may have been the gloating that he thinks he has been right all along about a clearly bogus birth certificate. If he has a crack research staff, I submit that they are on crack!

  47. indymac | April 29, 2011 at 12:01 am |

    Makes total sense – the texas darlin post. Where is the MSM? Again they are absent. I often wonder what kind of pressure could be keeping the lowliest reporter from actually reporting? This is a great mystery to me.

    Seriously, the only thing that sustains me with all the nonsense I wade through, is the internet. I am glad that I can communicate with those that are here.

  48. Cabby – AZ | April 28, 2011 at 11:42 pm |

    T4P,
    Thanks for the video. I had seen it yesterday but appreciated viewing it again after reading more from other sources. It appears that the AP version is not as suspect, while the government version is very much so, since it is computer – generated.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    It means that the AP caught the mistake and fixed it to cover up for the usurper.

    How could there be two versions on the same day of the “document”? Because it’s not a document at all. It’s a digitally created piece of crap.

  49. Cabby………………..
    I really do not believe that there is any real infighting between Daley and Jarrett. Daley knew at the outset that Jarrett is the SUPREME COMMANDER in the WH. SONNY BOY doesn’t even HICCUP in her presence, for fear of being SPANKED. In reality I have said repeatedly in the past and I say it again do NOT LET HER OUT OF YOUR SIGHT. The TRICKY TRIANGLE is JARRETT, BAUER, AND SOETORO. FURTHER it is my belief that JARRETT IS “MUCH MORE” TO SONNY BOY THAN ANYONE EVEN SUSPECTS. NOT EVEN SOETORO’S OWN WIFE. In my own way of thinking this would make her look as though she is INSANE also.
    We have long expected Soetoro to make another try at a BC. But still it is extremely tardy,and to add insult upon injury,a PHONEY as well. This just strengthens the BIRTHERS argument, and at the same timen adds resolve to our intent. He and his GOON SQUADS ………”CANNOT FOOL ALL THE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME”. WE WILL PREVAIL, AND IN THE END SOETORO ALONG WITH ALL OF THOSE WHO SUPPORTED HIS CRIMINAL VENTURE WILL END UP IN PRISON FOR A VERY LONG TIME. THE BIRTHERS ARE NOT GOING TO GO AWAY,NOR ARE THEY GOING TO EVAPORATE. WE WILL GROW STRONGER AND STRONGER,AND AFTER THE SMOKE CLEARS OUR CONSTITUTION WILL AGAIN RANK SUPREME. NEVER FORGET THAT THERE ARE WEXTREMELY FEW PERFECT CRIMES OR ,THOSE WHO PERPETRATE THEM. SOONER OR LATER THE PERPETRATOR SO IMPLICATES HIMSELF THAT THE GLARING FACTS LITERALLY BURY HIM. IT IS MY BELIEF THYAT THIS WILL ALSO HAPPEN TO SOETORO.

  50. Free Speech/FS/Leo over at CW is counting posts over here. In classic non-self awareness he called This place and Anti CW site, when in fact it is an anti knuckle head Leo Haffey / FS site. He still doesn’t understand That people feel like taking a shower Just by being around him.

  51. I’m with you Old Salt. The battle is still gaining strength. We the People will prevail. As far as Jarett is concerned, I think she has more links to the ME and the Muslim elites than is obvious. She has as many unknowns as Obama and of course the msm doesn’t care or bother to investigate. Definitely think she pulls the strings and keeps Ob in line, basically keeping the short leash on him so he doesn’t mess things up too much.

    Question is, who pulls her strings? Find that out and the revelation shine a light on whose hiding under the rocks and we would know who to really go after.

  52. April 29, 2011
    The Obama Lie That Drove the Birther Movement
    By Jack Cashill
    http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/04/the_obama_lie_that_drove_the_b.html

  53. I just started listening to Mark Steyn today. He is mocking those of us who believe Obama is not a natural born citizen per The Constitution. Did anyone hear the caller that made the argument? Was he/she reasonable? This sounds like quite the rant.

  54. P.S. Mark Steyn is filling in for Rush.

  55. Paxson | April 29, 2011 at 1:30 pm |

    Free Speech/FS/Leo over at CW is counting posts over here.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    It’s hysterical and sad all at the same time.

    Now he’s talking to himself. All alone and nobody to insult.

  56. FS can kizz ma azzzz. He must think we all get paid to comment like he does. The DemRat rat, pure OBOT disinfo poop chucker.

  57. Hey Indy,

    The fact that he keeps coming over here proves that this site is pi*sing him off.

    Walking stool sample.

    Hopefully, the nice men in the white coats will be coming for him shortly.

  58. Hi SueK,
    Hope your right about the nice men. I’m sure his neighbors would breathe a sigh of relief.

  59. Last comment on this subject today, but FS can’t even communicate all by his lonesome without his filth. Why Mr. Wells chooses to associate with such a Lowlife is beyond me.

  60. What do you guys make of this

    Expert: No Doubt Obama’s Birth Certificate Is Legit
    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/04/29/expert-says-obamas-birth-certificate-legit/#ixzz1Ky5AmYq7

  61. This is linked from Rense.

    If the last line of the document was added after the fact, no big deal but if is indeed part of the ‘released’ birth certificate, Barky dooooo have a problem, A BIG problem:

    http://alohareporter.com/2010/03/hawaii-considering-law-to-ignore-obama-birthers/

  62. SueK where did that copy of the bc come from at Rense? That line is not legit is it? Wish it was true though.

    BC or no bc the the fact remains he is not eligible because of his father. Obama sr is on the bc listed as daddy and that makes Obama jr. ineligible.

  63. Hi cj,

    Here’s Rense’ link; it’s on the right-hand side:

    http://www.rense.com/

    In looking at it closely, it seems to be another fake. This is dated March, 2010, and if you look at the first two signatures, they appear to be written by the same person. The last box (with the critical info) seems to have been added on.

    If this was indeed the smoking gun, we’d have seen it before now!

  64. So many fakes, so little time!

  65. We want to thank many of you for your kind words!

    There is a new open thread.

  66. John Charlton wrote about that RENSE birth certificate in this article – ‘WILLIAM BLAINE RELEASES PURPORTED OBAMA CERTIFICATE OF LIVE BIRTH’
    source:
    http://www.thepostemail.com/2009/10/19/the-blaine-document/

  67. Hello! I am new:)
    My name is John from California!
    Nice to meet all of u here

  68. ForumJoBa | May 12, 2011 at 11:37 pm | | Edit

    Hello! I am new:)
    My name is John from California!
    Nice to meet all of u here
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    Welcome! We are glad to have you here. The way we work is that everyone posts on the latest thread, regardless of the topic.

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